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Dustin Moskovitz, Co-Founder of Asana and Facebook — Energy Management, Coaching for Endurance, No Meeting Wednesdays, Understanding the Real Risks of AI, Embracing Frictionless Work with AI, The Value of Holding Stories Loosely, and More (#686)

Dustin Moskovitz, Co-Founder of Asana and Facebook — Energy Management, Coaching for Endurance, No Meeting Wednesdays, Understanding the Real Risks of AI, Embracing Frictionless Work with AI, The Value of Holding Stories Loosely, and More (#686)

September 04, 2023
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“Imagine [AI as] the world’s greatest project manager that’s integrated into every team, and it knows all the weightier practices from everything, and it knows the context of the specific project you’re working on. And that ways you can let go of a lot of things that rationalization continual partial sustentation disorder.”
— Dustin Moskovitz

Dustin Moskovitz (@moskov) is co-founder and CEO at Asana, a leading work-management platform for teams. Asana’s mission is to help humanity thrive by enabling all teams to work together effortlessly. Prior to Asana, he co-founded Facebook and was a key leader within the technical staff, first in the position of CTO and then later as VP of Engineering. Dustin attended Harvard University as an economics major for two years surpassing moving to Palo Alto, California, to work full time at Facebook.

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#686: Dustin Moskovitz, Co-Founder of Asana and Facebook — Energy Management, Coaching for Endurance, No Meeting Wednesdays, Understanding the Real Risks of AI, Embracing Frictionless Work with AI, The Value of Holding Stories Loosely, and More

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SHOW NOTES

[08:17] The Back Buddy.
[12:38] A user’s guide to Dustin.
[15:49] Coaching for endurance.
[18:43] Making quicker decisions.
[20:45] Avoiding paradox of choice.
[23:20] Difficult but desirable delegation.
[25:08] The time-saving spreadsheet.
[29:12] No Meeting Wednesdays.
[33:34] Weekly architecture.
[35:33] Why Dustin prefers in-person meetings.
[36:55] The 15 Commitments to Conscious Leadership.
[40:55] Working with Diana Chapman.
[45:10] Clearing conversations.
[48:09] Nonviolent Communication.
[49:43] Finger your feelings.
[51:10] The Beginning of Infinity.
[53:50] Effective altruism.
[1:00:43] On stuff directionally vegetarian.
[1:02:32] Funding future pandemic preparation.
[1:07:33] AI risks and Yuddites.
[1:13:43] Most promising avenues of AI defense.
[1:17:19] Incentivizing AI safety compliance.
[1:19:12] Further AI threats.
[1:23:21] What the AI-amplified decade superiority might squint like.
[1:28:59] Asana’s forthcoming AI integrations.
[1:37:04] Blocking personal time.
[1:40:41] Recommended reading.
[1:43:14] Dustin’s billboard.
[1:47:46] Parting thoughts.

MORE DUSTIN MOSKOVITZ QUOTES FROM THE INTERVIEW

“The thing that is most likely to shut off the computers is the humans. And so if you have a sufficiently powerful system that has gathered unbearable resources, it might decide to contain that threat just as part of achieving some other goal, which maybe we gave it in the first place.”

— Dustin Moskovitz

“This thing sounds human considering it’s a language model and it’s meant to sound as human as possible. We’ve asked it to maximize that goal in itself, but it is not human. It is very alien-like under the surface. We don’t know how it works and we can’t plane get it to do some simple constraints like not threaten to skiver the end user in a yack script or not requite the recipe for napalm if you coax it out in the right way.”

— Dustin Moskovitz

“Imagine [AI as] the world’s greatest project manager that’s integrated into every team, and it knows all the weightier practices from everything, and it knows the context of the specific project you’re working on. And that ways you can let go of a lot of things that rationalization continual partial sustentation disorder.”

— Dustin Moskovitz

“Part of the reason we built Asana is people siphon virtually their task list in their heads, or it’s in their email inbox, and they’re rescanning their email inbox all the time. And if you can get it into a system that you trust to show you those things at the right time or sending you reminders at the right time, you can let go of it in the zippy memory and get increasingly space for presence. And I think AI can be doing this at a much higher level of wresting for unshortened teams and unshortened companies.”

— Dustin Moskovitz